Client Spotlight: Annelies Gentile, A Conduit for Change
We often like to make time to feature clients who have interesting experiences or businesses, whom we'd like to shine a spotlight upon. This week, our friend Annelies was kind enough to come by the office and share a bit of her coaching story. Here is that interview (edited for length and clarity). |
This interview was originally published in our newsletter.
How did you get into coaching?Before this chapter of my life, I was a hair and makeup artist to the stars. One of my clients was the former governor of North Carolina. One morning while taking care of her, she said to me, “Annelies (in a Southern accent), you should be a life coach.” And I said, “…What?” She said, “You always help me see things differently, you inspire me, and you make me see that I’m a part of something bigger. And I just heard of this new career called ‘life coaching’, and that’s what you do for me.” I was already on the path to retooling towards a new career, as I was working on a Bachelor's and then a Master's. And so around that time, I took her advice and I began to research certification programs. And I chose to get my Master’s in coaching and my certification with the International Coaching Federation. |
What surprised you most when you began your own coaching journey?In a nutshell, what has surprised me has been how I have had to educate people on what coaching is to begin with. People know what a haircut is, they know what an oil change is, or a sandwich is, but people don’t understand coaching in relationship to their own personal and professional well-being and success. People also know sports coaches, which is the first analogy that I go to when I try to explain it. Coaching used to be available only to the elite and to high-performance professionals (like sports stars). It’s now available to the average business person. What also surprised me was how saturated the industry is with sub-par coaches. So before I even get a chance to do my work, I have to educate people on what it is and how it will serve them. |
How are you different from other coaches?I have a Masters’ degree in coaching, I’m certified with the ICF, and my focus and process is in integrating the person in front of me, their resources, to help them own their situation, and excel beyond their expectations. You will be more than “changed” when you work with me; you will be transformed. |
What do you feel is the biggest misconception people have about coaching?That it’s not for them, it’s inaccessible, and unaffordable. But the reality is, it’s costing people a lot more to suffer than it would to actually do something about it |
What does a client need to bring to be successful?Curiosity and commitment. We can’t begin if you’re not committed, and we can’t continue if you’re not curious. Rumi once said, "There are many ways to kneel down and kiss the ground." And that is true for the coaching path for any individual, organization, or business. I’m determined to be the best co-pilot and catalyst that I can for my client, provided they are willing to show up, be curious, and be willing to explore what’s possible. |
What’s the best way for a new client to get on your calendar?No one calls anymore, so when someone calls, I’ll probably answer the phone. (laughs) They can also email me and we’ll book a time to talk. I want to hear what people are hungry for. Find Annelies on the web at www.conduitforchange.com.
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The 3 Most Common MLM Tax Myths
Multi-level marketing companies (MLMs) have exploded over the last decade. Tens of millions of Americans participate in MLMs or "network marketing". There have been countless articles written over both the potential risks and successes of these companies, so we're not going to dig into that debate. The fact of the matter is, like with any industry, some people make money in multi-level marketing, and some people don't.
What we are interested in, however, is the preponderance of tax myths we see bandied about when it comes to network marketing. New MLM participants are often encouraged to take advantage of myriad deductions that will open up when they start their own business, and are promised significant tax savings.
Unfortunately, it's our responsibility to set the record straight on that.
Here are the three (inaccurate) MLM tax beliefs we see most frequently...
If you put an advertisement on your car, all your vehicle expenses are deductible!
If this was true, every person should just file a d.b.a. and slap the name of their "company" on their vehicle, because the tax savings would absolutely be worth it. Unfortunately, it's not true. However, we still talk to many new clients who have heard this.
This myth is so pervasive, in fact, that the IRS put out a special note on it in their 2016 version of Publication 463 (which pertains to transportation deductions). A vehicle wrap is not a free pass for the government to pay for all of your fuel purchases for the year.
However, the cost of the car advertisement itself is fully deductible as a marketing expense. Also, your business mileage (excluding commute) is still deductible.
You can write off all your meals!
Don't go crazy on eating out, thinking you'll get it all back at the end of the year.
For one thing, business meals are limited to those which are not considered "lavish or extravagant". For another, except for under very specific conditions, meals are only 50% deductible. So you can still lose a lot in meal expenses if you aren't careful.
Also, don't try to classify every meal as a "business" meal. Meal deductions are frequently abused, and can show up as a "red flag" to the IRS.
It doesn't matter if you aren't making money...Just write off the loss!
Bad news: The IRS isn't dumb.
There was an actual case that came about due to a couple who were involved with Amway as a hobby. They threw extravagant parties for their friends, ostensibly for the purpose of selling Amway products, and claimed the losses on their taxes each year. That's when the IRS came in with hobby law.
Hobby law specifies the conditions under which your business can be reclassified as a "hobby". There are various criteria involved, but one major aspect is failure to turn a profit year after year. Regardless of the type of business, if your business is facing long-term failure, that is a problem.
If you have questions about how to handle your MLM business's accounting, don't take the word of your friends or upline. Talk to a professional, so you don't run into trouble.
Networking: What's Worked for Us
I know this will probably get lost in the sea of thousands of articles telling you how to be a better networker. But if you're reading this, it's likely that you are at least passingly familiar with The Bookkeeper. We get asked frequently how we grew our business so fast, and networking is certainly a component of that.
When it comes to networking, here is what has worked for us over the last three years.
Know your message.
A friend in marketing once told me, "Don't tell people how you're better. Tell people how you're different." We expended a lot of energy, early on, in trying to present the image we thought a serious bookkeeping company should have. (I, in particular, in an effort to look older, adopted a uniform of all-black, conservative clothing with my hair in a perpetual bun.) People didn't respond to the image we were putting forth because a) it wasn't genuine and b) they had seen it a thousand times.
Success came when we nailed down who we are, specifically. We're the company who does high-standards bookkeeping, but then also uses the information the books provide to do so much more for our clients. Once people found out that we did things like pricing strategy, forecasting, or even just filing 1099s, they got a lot more excited about our business.
Knowing exactly who we are has also helped us pinpoint who our ideal client is. In networking, it's easy to say, "My ideal referral is anyone!" But that really does not help the people who are trying to send you referrals. Yes, we would love to work with just about any small to mid-sized business. However, our ideal referral is really a potential client who is willing to listen and follow guidance; otherwise, they wouldn't be taking full advantage of our services.
Narrowing the scope of your business, as opposed to using a "shotgun" approach, helps your message penetrate deeper in your audience's mind and leave a lasting impression.
Mix it up.
Every company officer at The Bookkeeper has membership in a seat-specific networking group (i.e. a group where we're the only bookkeeper represented). Some of us are in more than one. And we demonstrate reliability to those groups by honoring the attendance requirements, but we also try to keep our routine fresh. Changing up our 60-second "elevator pitch" (a short spoken commercial about the company) week-to-week helps, as does bringing visitors or sending substitutes when we're absent. If we were to come and make the same speech week after week, the members of our groups would learn nothing new about us. Sometimes, just wording our pitch a little bit differently can spark something in another member's mind to make them realize, "Ah, I have a referral for them."
We've also found it helpful to break outside of our own groups. Visiting other groups, even if they have a member who might be considered "competition", is valuable. Not all bookkeepers work with all types of clients, and we frequently receive referrals from other bookkeeping companies who don't do exactly what we do. Night networking, which is typically more casual, can be beneficial as well. This is particularly good for those who are nervous about public speaking, as there's never a moment when you have to stand up and be the center of attention. And, since many small business owners are still working day jobs while they grow their own business, you get to meet a different set of people.
Follow up!
Yes, every bit of networking advice includes this, but only because it is so important. If someone meets 100 new people in an evening, how can you expect them to remember you long-term unless you remind them?
In a networking situation, you're not getting to spend much time with each person. The real work comes after that initial meeting, when you follow up with a 1-to-1. The one-on-one follow-up meeting is where you get to really show the person why you're interested in their business and what you have to offer, to them or referrals.
However, 1-to-1s don't have to be strictly business. It's always good to take a more professional tone with someone you're just getting to know, but it's also great to "touch base" with close referral partners. That can be an office meeting, but it can also be meeting for drinks or going to watch a game.
Come to serve, not to sell.
"Show, don't tell," works as well for networking as it does for storytelling. Someone who spends their entire time networking telling everyone how great their services are is off-putting, and has not yet earned enough trust to make those claims believable. Someone who shows that they are a competent and honest individual, by helping others within the group, commands respect.
One of my favorite things in networking is when I identify someone who would be either a good vendor or customer for one of my clients. Without a word of self-promotion, I'm empowered to benefit two businesses within my networking circle. Though it doesn't result in immediate business for my company, I still consider it a win-win, because it benefits my client, and it helps me to make a good connection with someone who could be a future client or referral partner. By referring them to each other, I am demonstrating my value to both.
Serving others also gives them a great opportunity to return the favor. No one enjoys 1-way relationships; you have to show a willingness to put others' needs before your own, and the right people will honor that by sending business back your way. However, that does not mean you help others only with the intention of getting something in return. Which leads to our final point...
Be real.
There is this tendency in new networkers to act like they have everything together, all the time. And while you do need to be professional and not falling apart during a networking meeting, it is also okay to be honest about business challenges you're facing. Keeping a perfect veneer can be very unsettling to the people you meet, and you will find that you form better bonds when you allow people to help you.
No one has it all together, and people recognize that. You will never lose business just because you're human. If you do, it's not business you really want to have.
Raising a Business from a Puppy
This past weekend, after months of my boys wearing me down, we went to the animal shelter and adopted a puppy. And not just any puppy, but a hound/terrier mix that is estimated to reach 65 pounds at adulthood. After a lifetime of owning tiny dogs (mostly Pomeranians), I knew Charlie would be a new adventure.
As we have been adapting to a puppy-friendly house, I have been thinking about how similar raising a puppy is to growing a business. There are similar challenges, but similar strategies to face them, as well.
Have set rules.
The first thing I did was to set ground rules early on, before the puppy had even set foot in the house. I reminded my sons that he was never to be fed people food, not allowed on the furniture, and that allowing him to roughhouse and "play-bite" was a bad idea.
In a business, it's also easier to practice good habits early on, and to avoid the bad ones. Getting into the practice of having separation of duties and staying on top of bookkeeping is easier when your business is small, and sets you up for success as your company grows.
Protect your assets.
Charlie has a crate he sleeps in and to which he is confined whenever the family isn't home. We have also stressed to the boys the importance of keeping toys and other valuables off the floor and in their rooms, where they are safe from puppy teeth. (I learned the lesson myself, when a laptop cord I'd left next to my desk was chewed through the first day.)
A new business, if not well-protected, can be even more destructive for an owner. Not having the proper insurance or levels of separation can not only be disastrous for the business, but can bankrupt you personally. And since none of those protections can be applied retroactively, it is best to have them early on, before you need them.
Get help from the experts.
I know a lot about animals, but I also know I can't be an expert in every area. We have a veterinarian to help take care of our pets' health. I may be comfortable giving the dog a bath, but I still prefer to take him to a professional groomer for things like a nail trim. And though we are reinforcing training at home, we already have Charlie signed up for puppy training classes. I don't have the time to provide absolutely everything Charlie could need, and there are experts who can offer those services much more efficiently than I ever could.
Businesses also need a lot of help, and it doesn't make sense for the owners to handle everything. Even if you're planning on doing your books yourself, get an expert to help set-up and train your and your staff. If you wait until your business is large to come up with a bookkeeping solution, you'll have an unmanageable beast on your hands.
Guest Post: "The Value of Referral Sources for Your Business" by Haley Lynn Gray
Your Accountant's Weird Habits - Explained
If you have a pet in your family, maybe you've seen those articles purporting to explain why your dog spins in a circle before lying down, or why your cat would rather drink from the faucet than a water dish. To many people, there is a creature even more alien and perplexing than any animal: the finance professional.
Your bookkeeper or tax professional might say or do things that don't make a lot of sense to you. Some of their actions might seem flat-out contradictory. But, as with any exotic species, there is a reason behind all of it.
I want to break down a few of the most commonly complained-about behaviors, along with the explanations behind them (with the assistance of cat pictures).
First annoying habit: My accountant keeps nagging me to get organized.
Your bookkeeper wants you to have a system for tracking open customer balances, or wants you to keep all your expense reports in one place. It's frustrating, because the whole reason you're paying them is for them to "keep up with that stuff".
So why do they do it?
For starters, good bookkeeping relies on complete information. (A balance sheet showing $1M in the bank doesn't mean much if there's a $995K liability that got left off.) Unless you have an in-house accounting staff, your bookkeeper is relying on you to get that information to them. A good organizational system ensures that all of the information is getting to who needs it.
Furthermore, most accountants charge based on time expended, and though good accounting can be had at a good value, it's still not cheap. Paying your accounting service to dig through files and hunt down info is a waste of their time and your money.
Speaking of "time", my accountant freaks out if I don't get certain information to them right away. What's the rush?
Certain items, particularly related to tax filings, can incur massive penalties if late. Your accountant needs the information in advance of those deadlines, to record it and check for accuracy. (Inaccurate filings can also, of course, result in penalties.)
If your accountant is pestering you to get information to them quickly, it's because they are trying to keep you out of trouble and save you money.
Since we're already talking about taxes...Why does my accountant try to make me spend money I don't want to spend? For instance, why do I have to treat certain workers as W-2 employees, instead of paying them as contractors?
Because worker classification is a big deal. Not paying employees correctly can result in audits, fines, and even lawsuits. Your accountant is being a stickler about the rules because they don't want you to get sued.
Still talking taxes...Why does my accountant say I can't take this cool deduction I found? I saw online that I can expense my home office/car payment/pet kinkajou/etc.
Present blog excluded, internet advice is no substitute for real, professional guidance. Though you'll seeing many articles claiming that you can write off an entire car payment, or take a "home office" deduction, the actual guidelines surrounding those items have specific criteria which must be met. Unfortunately, small businesses, particularly those which are sole proprietorships, are frequent targets for audits. Taking excessive, unqualified deductions puts you at an even greater risk. If you trust your tax professional, trust that they will advise you of deductions for which you do qualify. (If you are not happy with your current tax professional, we can recommend some.)
So I have to spend extra on employees, but can't take any of the fun deductions. And now I'm being told that I need to watch my spending on meals, and look at ROI for things like advertising. Is my bookkeeper just a kill-joy?
No, they just don't want you to go broke. Going bankrupt isn't just bad for you; it also means you can't pay your vendors (like your bookkeeper). So they have a vested interest in keeping you solvent.
Because, no matter what your business, one thing we all have in common is that we like to get paid.
Guest Post: "Accidental Partnership" by Richard Bobholz
“Oops, I tripped,” won’t work too well as an excuse if you find yourself under scrutiny for an accidental partnership. Despite having the potential to be incredibly damaging, these arrangements happen all the time in business.
What is an Accidental Partnership
An accidental partnership is a partnership that was entered into inadvertently. Yeah, I know that didn’t help at all. These commonly occur when two or more businesses get together to try to put on an event, coalition, or joint marketing efforts.
For example: the very first instance I encountered this was very shortly after I began my firm. A colleague approached me and told me all about this great expo that she and a few other colleagues were going to put on, and she wanted to know what risks there were. That’s when I told her about the accidental partnership.
The Law
North Carolina defines a partnership as “an association of two or more persons to carry on as co-owners a business for profit.” Person can mean any individual, company, or association of any type. What constitutes a business for profit is very broadly interpreted and includes any activity where profit was desired, not necessarily achieved.
In the example above, it was actually a partnership of LLCs that was getting together to put on the expo. Since the expo was to be separate from each of their businesses and yet not an incorporated or organized entity, we’re looking at a partnership.
What does that mean for the partners?
A partnership is not necessarily a bad thing. Each of the individuals in the partnership would have had personal liability protection because of the nature of their LLCs, so they wouldn’t lose any personally owned property if something went bad. However, under the partnership, every partner is 100% liable for anything that goes wrong. That means that if one partner causes huge damages to an attendee at the expo, any partner could be held liable. The person who was harmed can choose one or all of the LLCs involved in the expo to sue for damages.
Partnerships are defined largely by contract law. This means that the partners can define a lot of the rights and responsibilities of the owners and of the company itself. There are default rules that cannot be contracted away, such as the duty of each partner to act reasonably prudent when acting on behalf of the company.
Unless a contract specifies otherwise, the ownership, profits, and losses are divided equally. Additionally, the liability and management are owned wholly by each partner. That means that each partner may make any decision on behalf of the partnership, and the other partners could be held liable for those decisions. This is a scary position to be in.
How do I protect myself?
First and foremost, being able to recognize these types of situations before you enter into them will provide huge protections. Anytime you join together with another company or individual to conduct anything business related, there’s a good chance you’re looking at a partnership. At that stage, you should think of whether or not you want to be in that partnership. You can always avoid it by removing the ownership components, instead either being a contractor or making the other participants contractors. In those cases, contractors should get paid, and management should only belong to the owners.
The best way to protect yourself if you do go forward with a partnership is two-fold:
- Create a separate entity for the project or business activity you’re doing in conjunction with other businesses. An LLC acts like a partnership and provides that liability shield.
- Create a clear and concise contract between the partners so that in the event something goes wrong, there are terms in place to protect you. This should also define what the rights and responsibilities of each partner is, as well as how to resolve any disputes as they come up.
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What does a bookkeeper do?
"So, what do you do?" It's one of the first questions we ask upon meeting someone. My usual answer is "bookkeeping and fractional CFO". The typical response to that is, "Okay...and what does that mean?"
Most people have a general understanding of bookkeeping is, but fractional CFO is a murkier concept. Essentially, we act as an "outsourced" CFO (Chief Financial Officer) for companies too small to have their own. Offering this service is one of the primary ways we distinguish ourselves from most bookkeepers.
However, there are several differences between what a standard bookkeeper does, and what we do.
A bookkeeper offers monthly reconciliations at an hourly rate. The process most bookkeepers use is to, at the end of the month, have their clients bring a stack of financial documents, such as bank statements, receipts, pay stubs, etc. The bookkeeper then uses that information to make entries and perform a reconciliation. This takes time, and their clients will usually receive that past month's financial statements about midway through the following month. Once the month's work is completed, the client receives an invoice for the hours worked. Depending on how busy that month was, this bill fluctuates.
The Bookkeeper offers bi-weekly reconciliations at a monthly rate. Instead of waiting until month-end, we enter information downloaded from the client's bank accounts every few days, so their financials stay more current. This prevents a long clean-up process at the end of the month, and allows us to complete the monthly financial statements more quickly. Furthermore, we offer our ongoing clients a monthly flat rate, so there are never any surprises on the bill (even when the month was a busy one).
A bookkeeper moves on and makes assumptions. Most bookkeepers focus on one specific aspect of their business, which is just getting transactions entered. If they have an expense and aren't sure what it's for, it gets stuck into "Uncategorized Expense" for the client to figure out later. If they're entering payroll and see that a contractor really should be paid as a W-2 employee, they're just going to make the entry as it's presented to them and move on. They might make a mention of it to the client when they see them again in a few weeks but, in most cases, likely not.
The Bookkeeper pauses and asks questions. Our clients hear from us frequently. If something looks "off", or if there are improvements to be made, we'll bring it to the client's attention immediately. In one account, we identified a case of credit card fraud before the bank and client did, and were able to alert them to it. We also warn clients about potential cash flow issues, or when certain bills are due, to help prevent overdraft fees and other penalties.
A bookkeeper does exactly what the client asks. That's not a bad thing, at all. But most bookkeepers do only what the client asks, and nothing else.
The Bookkeeper proactively seeks out ways to improve our clients' financials. On our own time (again, without charging the client a cent more), we've done things like developing a new pricing strategy to propose to a client having issues with their retailers. We've identified overdue Accounts Receivable to find clients money, and we've saved clients money by negotiating better vendor contracts. We've used our connections with merchant card processors to save clients thousands in credit card processing fees. And we have done all these things without the client ever asking us to.
Money, it is said, is a vehicle.
A bookkeeper is a mechanic. They do routine maintenance. If something breaks (and you notice it), you take it to them to get fixed. If something breaks and you don't notice it for a while, and the problems gets really big, when you take it to them to fix, you're going to end up with an expensive bill.
The Bookkeeper is a travel agent. We help you figure out where you want to go, and we get you there. Whether you drive, cruise, or fly, we are there for you at every step of the journey. And we work to help ensure that the trip is as enjoyable as the destination.
Of course, all of this is hard to sum up in a casual introduction. That is why we offer free 1-hour initial consultations, so we can get to know prospective clients and show them the differences we have to offer.
If you know someone whose business isn't going where they want it to go, before you send them to a bookkeeper, send them to The Bookkeeper.
Getting Creative at Getting Out of the Office
Having a comfortable office for business meetings is a great resource. It's very convenient to have a consistently available place to meet with potential clients, employees, or referral partners. However, it's also great to get away from the workplace at times.
Meeting someone away from the office can offer the benefit of a neutral territory, where people can lower their defenses and engage in more genuine conversation. Where you choose to meet can also give others a better understanding of yourself and your company culture.
When scheduling your next business meeting, consider some variants on these classic choices.
Eating Establishments
Everyone knows the standbys of a coffee or lunch meeting. (If you're particularly adventurous, you might go for an after hours cocktail.) But meeting over meals doesn't have to be limited to a cafe or sit-down restaurant. If you want to make a meeting memorable, start at a food truck, or grab an ice cream cone. Weather permitting, you can walk and talk as you enjoy your snack. Many people feel awkward holding face-to-face conversations with people they don't know well, particularly if they are eating in front of them.
Walking side-by-side helps avoid nerves over eye contact, and can put shier people at ease.
Quiet Spots
Most big cities have plenty of co-working spaces available. (We have a plethora of great ones in Raleigh.) And they are fun places to hang out, even if you don't have someone to meet. Many extroverts (myself included) like to be out around people while we work, even if we're working independently.
If you don't have official co-working spaces in your geographic area, there are likely still plenty of quiet places to meet. Many libraries have meeting rooms and tables which can be either reserved or used on a first-come/first-serve basis, as do some bookstores. If you don't need somewhere with table space, consider a walk around a museum, or other cultural center. (In Raleigh, the JC Raulston Arboretum and Botanical Gardens comes to mind.) Anywhere peaceful and open to the public can be a good meeting location.
Active Meetings
For decades, business deals have gone down on golf courses and racquetball courts. But if you're looking for an activity to get your heart rate up, you're not limited to those two options.
Assuming you're of similar cardiovascular health, going for a run is a great meeting option. Running is always more fun with a matched partner. Other sports which work well for 1-on-1 are tennis and basketball (so long as you don't get too over-competitive).
If those are too strenuous, a brisk walk through the park (maybe hunting some Pokémon?) is a suitable choice, as well.
If you keep an open mind, you can find meeting locations off the beaten path, which will leave an impression. As long as both parties are comfortable, you're able to converse, and it's a hospitable environment, anywhere can be a good place for a meeting.
3 Questions for Defining Your "Ideal Customer"
Whenever I'm networking and have spoken to someone for more than a few minutes, the question I most dread comes up. No, not, "What do you do?"
"Who's your ideal customer?"
I feel like that's hard to answer, so I normally make a joke of it and answer like a dating show contestant. "Oh, someone who's a good listener and open to change."
But it's not entirely a joke, because, though I do tend to serve businesses of a certain size, I also do want clients to both listen to me and implement suggested improvements.
If you're having trouble defining your ideal customer, ask yourself these three questions.
Can I help them?
Most businesses, particularly in the B2B or professional service realms have a certain scope within which they're comfortable. For instance, if you have a professional cleaning service, maybe you don't have enough cleaners to pick up a contract with a large office complex. On the flip side, maybe you don't do residential cleaning, because those jobs are too small for the revenue gained to cover the expenses they require. So your ideal customer is somewhere in the middle.
Or, maybe a certain company just has requirements which are out of your wheelhouse. If you are a business attorney and someone contacts you for divorce representation, they're not your ideal client. You might be able to get some business out of them, but if it's an area in which you aren't experienced, you're probably doing a disservice to you both.
Do they want my help?
Remember my date show answer about wanting a client who listens?
There will be certain clients who, though you could help them, aren't interested for whatever reason. Maybe they're a brand new business and they're not ready to outsource any services yet. Or perhaps they're a larger business who can't be convinced you have anything to offer them.
Maybe you've found that clients in certain types of businesses are less receptive to outside advice, due to the specifics of their industry. Or you haven't gotten your foot in the door with that industry yet.
None of this is to say that you can never work with these types of clients. However, for the purposes of referrals, they are not your ideal clients.
Do I want to work with them?
It's a fact of business that certain customers are not worth the hassle. Maybe they want to pay you bottom rates, but they require 100% on-site work (and their office is on 3-Mile Island).
Maybe they've had multiple failed business ventures, and stiffed their vendors on unpaid invoices when they closed shop. Perhaps they are unethical in their dealings with employees or customers.
If a client is going to be a lot of work for little return, or if they could bring down your reputation just by association, they're probably not the client you want to pursue first.
Again, someone being a "no" to one (or all) of these questions isn't a reason to absolutely never pursue them as a customer. However, when you are in a networking situation and only have minutes to describe who you're looking for, use these parameters to describe your "ideal" client.